Sunday, December 1, 2024

Percy Jackson VS Harry Potter

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"Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become. Your vision is the promise of what you shall one day be; your ideal is the prophecy of what you shall at last unveil." 
- James Allen

Percy Jackson, The Son of the Sea God

Harry Potter, The Boy Who Lived

These two heroes of prophecy had to undergo many trials and tribulation throughout their many adventures, even having to almost die in order to fulfill the prophecies they were a part of. But today one of them will have to die permanently as I'm here to go over whether I'd think The Son of The Sea God or The Boy Who Lived would win a DEATH BATTLE!

Before We Begin

Both of the analyses for Percy and Harry will be based on their book versions and not the movies/tv series. For Percy the books that I will be using are the original 5 books from Percy Jackson and The Olympians, the short stories from The Demigod Files, The Demigod Diaries, and Demigods and Magicians, the 4 books he appears in The Heroes of Olympus series, and the 2 books he appears in the Trials of Apollo series. For Harry I will be using the original 7 books from the Harry Potter series. I will also be excluding The Senior Year Adventures for Percy as that series is not finished yet, and The Cursed Child for Harry since that story sucks and I refuse to accept it as canon. Although sometimes I will link and show scenes from the Percy Jackson show as it is mostly book accurate, and sometimes gifs or images from the movies as Percy Jackson doesn't have a lot of visual media.

Background

Percy Jackson

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Percy Jackson didn't want to be a half-blood, unfortunately for him life didn't care. Percy was born as the result of an affair between the Greek god of the Seas, Poseidon and a normal mortal woman from New York named Sally Jackson. But little Percy never got to know or meet his father for the first 12 years of his life as Poseidon left when Percy was an infant which is customary of the gods. Because of this Sally was forced to marry a horrible man named Gabe Ugliano. Gabe would verbally abuse Percy and behind the scenes he would even physically abuse Sally. Sally only married him because he smelled horrible in order to protect Percy as Gabe's horrible odor masked the smell Percy would give off to monsters for being a demigod and as he was the son of one of what is called The Big Three Gods being Zeus, Poseidon and Hades; the smell he'd give off would be even stronger. 

Percy would also struggle personally and in schools as a results of having both dyslexia and ADHD. This life would be the norm for Percy until one day at a field trip to a museum. During this field trip Percy's pre-algebra teacher would transform into a Fury, one of Hades' 3 torturers in the underworld as she tried to kill Percy for allegedly stealing Zeus' master lightning bolt, Percy's Latin teacher threw Percy a pen that transformed into a sword in order to have Percy defend himself. This works as Percy successfully kills her with one slash from the sword. After this the sword goes back to its pen form and Percy gives it back to his Latin teacher who tries to convince Percy that the events that just transpired had never actually happened, making Percy incredibly confused and angry. This anger only got worse as he would then learn that because of his attitude and grade issues he would be expelled from his current school, although his mom would cheer him up by telling him that they would be going on their yearly vacation.

However, it was during this trip that everything went horribly wrong. First a massive storm come blowing by and almost destroyed the shack Percy and Sally were staying at, then Percy's best friend tracks them down and reveals himself to be a satyr a half-human half-goat and tells them that they need to leave immediately. Sally then takes Percy and Grover in her car and drives to a place she says will be safe for someone like Percy but as Sally was finally going to tell the full truth about Percy's father, they run into the Minotaur who flips over the car and grabs Sally and squeezes his fist and seemingly kills Sally. This causes an enraged Percy with his power being boosted by the rain unknowingly to fight the minotaur and with this strength boost he jumps on the minotaur's back and rips off one of his horns and stabs the minotaur with his own horn, killing him. After this the adrenaline coursing through Percy to fade away and Percy passes out.

After waking up Percy comes to find out he is in a new place intended to be a safe haven for people like him called Camp Half-Blood. Percy learns that he is a demigod and makes two new friends named Luke Castellan son of Hermes and Annabeth Chase daughter of Athena, and a new frenemy Clarisse LaRue daughter of Ares. And after a couple weeks there the camp becomes essentially a second home to Percy. Soon after he finally learns the truth of who his father is, the God of the Seas, Poseidon. Once Percy learned this he is given a quest to go and find Zeus's missing master bolt before the summer solstice or else his father and Zeus would end up going to war with each other. Before he goes on this quest his Latin teacher who turned out to be the centaur Chiron gave him the pen sword back and told Percy its name "Anaklusmos" Greek for Riptide. Chiron then had Grover and Annabeth accompany Percy, he is successful in his quest and even learns that his mother is alive and manages to save her and even freed her from Gabe by sending her Medusa's head so she could turn him into a stone statue. The next year he would befriend a classmate named Tyson who he later found out was a Cyclops and also his brother on his fathers side. A few years after these events Percy even meets and befriends two more demigod children of the Big 3, Thalia Grace, daughter of Zeus and Nico di Angelo, son of Hades, and learns of a great prophecy that says that one of them will make an important decision the day the turn 16 which will either destroy or preserve the world.

Before Percy's freshman year at high school he, Annabeth, Grover and Tyson go on a quest to explore The Labyrinth in order to protect Camp Half-Blood from Luke, who turned traitor and wants to destroy Olympus by reviving the Titan Lord Kronos. After exploring The Labyrinth the campers successfully manage to defend their home. In the next couple of weeks after that Percy, Annabeth and their friends Charles Beckendorf, son of Hephaestus and Silena Beauragard, daughter of Aphrodite who during a game of capture the flag, would end up encountering a bronze dragon and had to figure out a way to stop it from rampaging throughout the camp. Percy and Beckendorf are able to stop it but lose the game in the process as it's revealed that Annabeth had planned for Percy and Beckendorf to get distracted by the dragon for long enough for Silena to steal their flag. After this Beckendorf tells Percy to try and ask Annabeth to the camps summer fireworks show as he finally managed to muster up the courage to ask Silena out and the two had started dating. Percy takes him up on this advice and he and Annabeth go to the fireworks show together. After this and during his freshman year he spots Clarisse outside his class and goes off to help her with her quest to receive Ares's stolen chariot. And during the winter of that same year he reunites with Nico and Thalia on a mission to retrieve a sword that Persephone made for Hades that was being stolen by the Titans. The children of the Big Three were able to retrieve the weapon and even defeat a Titan who after he forgets everything Percy renames Bob. 

After Percy's freshman year the culmination of all his past adventures would begin as Kronos returns inhabiting Luke's body and begins to start the War on Olympus. Before the war officially gets started Percy and Beckendorf try and infiltrate the cruise ship that boards all of the affiliates of Kronos to destroy it but they get caught. However Beckendorf managed to rigg the ship with explosives and sets them off successfully destroying the ship but sacrificing himself in the process. Percy manages to survive this because as the son of Poseidon the water heals him. After waking up in the water Percy swims to Camp Half-Blood to let the campers know of Beckendorf's death. After this, Annabeth and Chiron finally tell Percy that it's time for him to know the Great Prophecy. After reading it, Percy prepares the campers for war and finally accepts his role as the camp leader. At the end of the war Percy manages to defeat Kronos and fulfills the Great Prophecy and saves Olympus. Once the war ended he goes back to camp with his friends and celebrates his 16th birthday and even gets together with Annabeth.

A couple months after the war ended, Percy goes missing from Camp Half-Blood and in his place the goddess Hera sent the Roman demigod Jason Grace, son of Jupiter and also Thalia's brother, there as she had basically traded places with Percy and Jason in order to try and get the Greek and Roman demigods to team up in order to stop the upcoming threat. Because of this, Percy wakes up in California with no memories other than Annabeth and is determined to get answers and ends up traveling to the Roman demigod camp, Camp Jupiter. At this camp Percy learns of a new great Prophecy, what the Romans call The Prophecy of Seven and made a couple new friends though to him they seemed like his only friends, Frank Zhang, Son of Mars and Hazel Levesque daughter of Pluto and technically Nico's sister as they share the same godly parent even if they are different aspects. Percy even learns that the Romans have basically remade Rome into New Rome where he sees demigods living on further into adulthood, something he's rarely ever seen and even learns of a college he could attend there called New Rome University. Later on, the god Mars decides to go to Camp Jupiter as he needs demigods to go on a quest to receive the legions eagle and free Thanatos the god of death so the monsters they fight can actually die made those demigods be his son Frank, Percy and Hazel. The trio are successful in this quest and Percy's memory even comes back and he leads Camp Jupiter to victory in a war against the giants and is selected as the new praetor for Camp Jupiter. Percy then tells the Romans of the existence of the Greek camp. After this he reunites with Annabeth and meets the last two demigods of the prophecy Leo Valdez, son of Hephaestus and Piper McLean daughter of Aphrodite. Once the seven of them set off on their adventure the manage to fulfill the prophecy and save the world. After the world is saved Percy and Annabeth have a couple encounters with sibling magicians who draw their power from the Egyptian gods Carter and Sadie Kane, and help them out with their problems and once the world is saved once and for all Percy and Annabeth go back to California to attend New Rome University. 

Harry Potter

"Expecto Patronum!"

Harry Potter should be dead. When the Dark Lord Voldemort attacked and killed the Potters the infant Harry should've also fallen victim to the Dark's Lords killing curse. But due to his mother Lily's love for her son being so strong the curse rebounded to Voldemort rendering him helpless and only leaving Harry with a scar shaped like a lightning bolt on his forehead and he became famous in the Wizarding World, being dubbed "The Boy Who Lived." However, for the next 10 years of his life Harry would grow up not knowing any of this, sadly he was forced to live with the Dursleys as because his Aunt Petunia Dursley was the sister of Lily Potter the blood she shared with her sister would protect Harry from enemies that would want to harm him. However, this life sucked for Harry as his Uncle and Aunt were very verbally abusive to Harry and even made him sleep in a tiny cupboard under their houses stairs, and their son Dudley Dursley would even physically bully Harry. 

Harry would be forced to live this horrible life until on his 11th birthday a half-giant named Hagrid would come visit the Dursleys in order to tell Harry that he is a wizard. He would also tell Harry that he has been accepted to the best wizarding school in Britain, that being Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. Hagrid would then take Harry shopping for his school supplies and Harry even gets a pet snow owl he names Hedwig and his wand. After this Hagrid would take Harry back to the Dursleys in order to wait for the school year at Hogwarts to begin. Once the day the year begins arrives the Dursleys drop Harry off at King's Cross station and he goes through platform 9 & 3/4's where he meets Ron Weasley, who would become his best friend and two of his older brothers who happened to be twins Fred and George Weasley. After the train ride to Hogwarts Harry and Ron undergo The Sorting Ceremony where 1st year students are sorted into one of 4 houses being Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff and Slytherin. Both Harry and Ron were sorted into Gryffindor and started spending a lot of their time together.

The two would eventually meet and befriend a fellow Gryffindor girl, Hermione Granger. The trio of them would become basically inseparable throughout their time at Hogwarts as if you saw one of them the other two would definitely be close by. He would also meet the headmaster of Hogwarts Albus Dumbledore who became like a mentor and father figure to Harry. During his 2nd year he meets Ron's younger sister Ginny Weasley. And Harry and Ron's friendship would undergo a major test during their 4th year as an event known as the Tri-Wizard Tournament was being hosted at Hogwarts where 3 students from 3 different schools age 17 and above would be selected to represent their schools however, Harry somehow ended up being selected. Ron had thought Harry had done this on purpose but Harry insisted otherwise causing a major rift in their friendship for a couple months but they did make up eventually. Harry even managed to win the Tri-Wizard Tournament although, it came at a cost as Voldemort was able to regain his body but Harry does manage to escape from him.

A year after these events Harry discovers a prophecy between him and Voldemort learning that one of them has to kill the other as they can't live while the other survives. Another year after this Harry is dubbed "The Chosen One" by the Ministry of Magic as they also discover the prophecy and want to use Harry to try and create a sense of peace within its citizens. However Harry refused this moniker and insisted on being loyal to Dumbledore, even calling himself Dumbledore's man through and through. And during his 6th year a bunch of girls seemed to have newfound interest in Harry due to his new moniker but he only had eyes for Ginny and even ended up dating her during this year. Throughout this year Dumbledore would show Harry memories of Voldemort's life in order to understand him so that he may finally understand how to defeat him, and they learn of Voldemort creating Horcruxes, devices made by splitting a persons soul into an object so they can be immortal and learn that he made seven of them. So, Dumbledore gave Harry a mission to find and destroy the Horcruxes so Voldemort would turn mortal again in order to finally do him in. Sadly Dumbledore didn't get to live to see this as he was killed by Voldemort's followers. Harry. Ron, Hermione and Ginny then all attended Dumbledore's funeral where they mourned his death and Harry is filled with determination to stop Voldemort once and for all.

The next year the trio decides to forgo their final year at Hogwarts in order to search for and destroy the Horcruxes in order to stop Voldemort once and for all. During this journey Harry, Ron and Hermione end up traversing through the magical world and learn that in order to destroy the Horcruxes they would need to use basilisk venom or something equally as potent. They succeed, however, Harry learns that he himself had become a Horcrux when Voldemort had tried to kill him as an infant so Harry learns that he has to sacrifice himself. Once Harry surrenders himself to Voldemort, Voldemort attacks him with the Killing Curse and Harry manages to survive the killing curse a second time as it had only killed the Horcrux inside of Harry and the love Lily Potter had for her son protected him a second time. Although Harry did pretend to be dead until his friend and another fellow Gryffindor killed Voldemort's final Horcrux, his snake Nagini and Harry revealed himself to be alive and dealt the final blow to Voldemort finally ending his reign for good. After the Second Wizarding War concluded Harry and Ron decide to completely forgo their last year at Hogwarts and begin to work as Aurors, which are dark wizard catchers. And Hermione decides to go back to Hogwarts to finish all 7 years. After she graduates her and Ron get married, with Harry being Ron's best man and Harry even marries Ginny, with Ron being Harry's best man and the two become brothers through marriage. 19 years later the 4 of them gather at King's Cross Station to send their own kids to Hogwarts.

Experience & Skill

Percy Jackson



Percy is one of the most skilled demigods to ever live. While he doesn't have that much training being really only 5 summers worth of it as Camp Half-Blood mainly operates as a summer camp his raw strength and skill are able to make up for it. This presents itself as Percy was trained by and was able to contend in a swordfight with Luke Castellan who was previously stated by another camper to be the most skilled swordfighter that Camp Half-Blood had seen in 300 years. This skill even translates to being able to fight and put Carter Kane on the backfoot and Carter even admits that Percy's skill with a sword far outclassed his, and Carter had been training with his sword for almost 3 full years. And even more impressive, during a fight with Jason while both of them were possessed, he matches Jason blow for blow in a sword fight. This is particularly impressive given the huge disparity in how long each of them had been training as Jason had been training at Camp Jupiter for 12 years compared to Percy's 5 summers 

Harry Potter


Harry Potter is one of the most skilled and experienced wizards to ever live. This shows itself in the fact that after a couple months of training with his Defense Against the Dark Arts professor for his third year, Remus Lupin, he manages to fully produce a Patronus Charm, something that even that most capable adult wizards struggle with. This skill with DADA eventually translated to Harry being able to teach certain students proper DADA in secret during his 5th year, and his skills with this subject even lead to him being one of if not the top Auror for the 19 years following his departure from Hogwarts.



Arsenal & Equipment

Percy Jackson

Riptide



Percy's weapon of choice is his sword Riptide, which normally takes the form of a ballpoint pen until the cap comes off and the pen transforms into a 3 foot tall double-edged sword made of Celestial Bronze. He can even put the cap on the bottom of the sword to turn it back into a pen and can write with it. Although as a weapon made of magical material the sword cannot harm mortals but can harm monsters and even kill most of them with 1 slash. Riptide can even harm magicians as shown in his fight with magician Carter Kane. The sword is also enchanted to return to Percy's pocket in pen form should he ever get disarmed or lose it.

Wristwatch Shield


This shield is a gift from Percy's Cyclops brother Tyson. Normally it takes the form of a wristwatch on his left wrist, but with a click of the buttons on the side it turns into a full shield made of Celestial Bronze. It can defend Percy from basically any thing thrown his way including the explosive Greek Fire and venom from a manticore.

Blackjack


This winged horse is a jet black Pegasus that is undyingly loyal to Percy, who treats him like a friend. This relationship is very important to Blackjack so whenever Percy asks for his help he appears to help out his "boss". Percy can even communicate with him telepathically as a power that he gained from his father as Poseidon created horses out of seafoam and is even the father to THE Pegasus, the first winged horse. As a Pegasus Blackjack is capable of flying Percy wherever he needs to go although flying for a long time will tire him out. Blackjack's speed is even capable of keeping up with Jason's Grace's steed Tempest, a horse made out of the spirit of a storm and can even create mini lightning storms


Annabeth's Yankees Cap

Annabeth was gifted this magic cap as a gift from her mother Athena. This cap makes the wearer of it invisible so long as it stays on their head. Although this item isn't Percy's he has used it on many occasions, and Annabeth has even lent it to him in order for Percy to use it to spy on enemies and friends alike.

Mrs. O'Leary


Mrs. O'Leary is Percy's pet hellhound. He received her from Daedulas, the creator of the labyrinth. Mrs. O'Leary is stated to be the size of a tank but she is very friendly and thought be be one of if not the only friendly hellhound in existence. As a being from the Underworld she is capable of Shadow Travel, a method of teleportation that uses on shadow to transport to another one. 

Harry Potter

Wand


Harry's main weapon is his wand like many witches and wizards. Harry's wand is 11 inches long, made of  holly wood and the core was a feather donated from Fawkes, Dumbledore's pet phoenix. It having a core made from Fawkes' feather made it the brother of Voldemort's wand as they share the same exact core type. 

Elder Wand


This wand is the most powerful wand in the Wizarding World, stated to be capable of magic that no other wand can use and that whoever is the master of it is also the master of Death. It chooses its master based on who was able to defeat its previous master. Harry became the master of this wand after a skirmish with Draco Malfoy and Harry uses this wand to finally kill Voldemort.

Firebolt Broom


This broom was given to Harry as a gift from his godfather Sirius Black as a replacement for his old broom the Nimbus 2000 being destroyed. At the time of is manufacturing in 1993 it was the fastest broom in the entire Wizarding World, being able to go from 0 to at least 150 MPH in 10 seconds. Harry mainly used this broom for his Quidditch matches but he is also capable of summoning it to him in order to ride it to get to locations quickly.

Cloak of Invisibility


This magical item was a gift that was given to Harry by Dumbledore but was actually a Potter family heirloom that his father James would have given him had he lived. This Cloak is actually one of the Deathly Hallows and as such is stronger than all other Invisibility Cloaks as it has none of the limitations they do as it's power doesn't fade with age. This cloak does what it says, it makes the wearer completely invisible so long as it covers the wearers entire body.

Abilities

Percy Jackson

Hydrokinesis 


As the Son of Poseidon, Percy's main power is being able to control water, or really anything liquid based as every liquid has some trace amounts of water in them as evidenced by the fact that Percy was able to control poison twice before. Percy can even harden the water into a solidified state to do pretty much whatever he wants, like walking on water. In The Son Of Neptune he solidifies the Little Tiber River into two fists that match the movements of his own fist. Another result of Percy's water manipulation is that if he comes into contact with water, it will heal any injuries that he has. Also while in contact with water he gets a speed and power boost, and this boost is even stronger should the water be saltwater. He can also breathe underwater indefinitely and can create air bubbles for people who can't breathe underwater. And his power with water is so strong that he has created miniature hurricanes on a couple of occasions. Although this power does drain him over time. His connection with the sea and water is so strong that he's even capable of summoning it when they're is no water present.

Superhuman Strength


As a demigod and more specifically a demigod child of one of The Big Three, Percy has exceptional strength. This has been shown on numerous occasions, such as being able to lift the sky as shown above and causing Mt. Saint Helens to erupt for a second time and that eruption was so strong that it caused half a million citizens to evacuate and ash to fall as far away as Lake Tahoe and Vancouver.

Superhuman Durability


As a demigod child of the Big Three Percy also has superhuman durability. This is also shown on numerous occasions, but the most notable of which is being able to survive in the epicenter of the volcanic eruption that he created that I just went over for Percy's Superhuman Strength and being able to survive the crashlanding in the secluded island of Ogygia. He was also able to survive a fall from the St. Louis Arch into a nearby river.

Superhuman Reflexes & Agility


As is common in demigods Percy has ADHD. However in the world that Percy lives in this isn't a drawback as the hyperactivity is actually Percy's latent battle senses and reflexes meant to keep him alive on the battlefield. This shown most blatantly in his fight with Ares. Percy can boost these reflexes and agility by coming into contact with water.

Possible Magic Resistance


As a Greek demigod, Percy seems like he is resistant to magic spells by some degree. As during his fight with Carter Kane in Demigods and Magicians, Carter's magic spell doesn't work on Percy and the spell is described to not quite know what to do with him. So more than likely Percy is resistant to magic. Although you can argue that he could just be resistant to all forms of magic that are tied to the divine instead of just general magic. Although you could also argue that magic tied to the divine is stronger than general magic so Percy could resist all magic outright.


Harry Potter

Magic

As a wizard, Harry's main ability is to use magic. He can use magic for a myriad of things like attacking his enemies, defending himself, and even summoning objects to him or sending objects away from him. For the sake of keeping my sanity even though Harry uses a bunch of magic spells throughout the 7 books, I'm only going to list the ones I think would matter in a fight. Although one weakness that magic has is that it can be blocked by metal objects.

Expelliarmus


Expelliarmus is the disarming Charm. If it hits this charm causes whatever Harry's opponent is holding to fly out of their hand and is mainly used to disarm the dark wizards Harry fought. Harry used this spell so much and with such efficiency that it was regarded as his signature spell.

Stupefy


Stupefy is the Stunning Charm. This Charm when it hits causes an opponent to go unconscious without doing lasting damage to his target.

Accio


Accio is the Summoning Charm, it summons whatever the caster says after the word "Accio." Harry can use this to summon his Firebolt broom during a fight as he does so in his fight with a dragon during the Tri-Wizard Tournament.

Protego


Protego is the Shield Charm, this spells summons an invisible shield to protect the caster from any magical attacks and reflects back any physical attack them for a short period of time. 

Sectumsempra


This spell is a curse created by Severus Snape. This curse slashes at the target and causes severe bleeding. Harry learned it through his copy of Advanced Potion Making, he used it on Draco Malfoy, almost killing him accidentally. Snape later uses this curse to cut off the ear of Fred Weasley.

Imperio


Imperio is the Imperius Curse, also known as the Mind Control Curse, and one of the Three Unforgivable Curses. This curse puts the victim under the users control and can only be broken by either having a strong will, if the caster decides to lift it, or if the victim dies. 

Crucio


Crucio is the Cruciatus Curse, also known as the Torture Curse, and the second of the three Unforgivable Curses. This curse causes the victim to go under in an intense and excruciating pain and if subjected to this curse for a while it could cause the victim to go insane. Harry has used this on two occasions, the first was him trying to use it on Bellatrix after she killed Sirius however it didn't work properly as he didn't really mean it. However he does manage to use it successfully later on against one of Voldemort's Death Eaters.

Avada Kedavra


Avada Kedavra is the Killing Curse and the last of the Three Unforgivable Curses. This curse is pretty self explanatory, it instantly kills whoever it successfully hits. The only known survivor of this curse is in fact Harry Potter himself.

Apparition


Apparition is basically a wizards way of teleporting. This is seemed as a very advanced form of magic that if done wrong can cause disastrous consequences like a limb being left behind from someone's body.

Feats

Percy Jackson

Overall

  • Became the de-facto leader of both the Greek and Roman demigod camps
  • Ended the Second Titan War
  • Fulfilled the First Great Prophecy
  • Assisted in the end of the Second Gigantes War
  • Assisted in the fulfillment of the Second Great Prophecy AKA The Prophecy of Seven
  • Defeated thousands of monsters throughout his many quests.
  • Managed to survive Tartarus, the worst part of the Underworld where all monsters are born

Power

Speed

Durability

Harry Potter

Overall

  • Became one of the most talented Aurors of all time
  • As a 5th year he managed to teach proper Defense Against the Dark Arts to students both his senior and junior
  • Managed to produce a full Patronus Charm as a third year
  • Won the Quidditch Cup for Gryffindor 3 years in a row
  • Won the Triwizard Tournament
  • Defeated a countless number of Death Eaters
  • Defeated Voldemort himself and ended the Second Wizarding War in the process.

Power

  • Harry managed to deflect a Bludger at 11 years old during one of his Quidditch matches. (Wall Level) Credit to user Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan on VSBattleWiki
  • The Freezing Spell Harry should've learned during his third year at Hogwarts is capable of freezing human beings (At least Small Building Level)
  • When fighting Voldemort, the two of them collapsed in a ceiling (Building Level)
  • Killed a Basilisk with The Sword of Gryffindor
  • Harry managed to levitate a side car for a motorcycle with magic (Superhuman)

Speed

  • Able to react to the spells of enemy wizards
  • Able to play Seeker for Quidditch and catch the Golden Snitch which is stated to be the fastest ball in Quidditch.
  • Harry's Firebolt broom is capable of reaching speeds of at least 150 MPH
  • Harry used this broom to speed past a dragon
  • The Lumos Solem spell creates a flash of sunlight (Relativistic-Speed of Light)

Durability

  • Harry gets hit by a bludger in the arm at age 12 and in the face at age 16 (Wall Level)
  • Harry survives a fall of 200 meters in the air off of his Hagrid's bike at 150 MPH (Wall Level)
  • Harry survives getting smashed through a wall of bricks by Nagini (Wall Level)
  • Tanked a hit from a Hungarian Horntail which can destroy rocks (Large Building Level)


Scaling

Percy Jackson

The Seven Demigods of Prophecy


Percy should scale to the other six demigods of the Prophecy of Seven as he is one of the main players in this prophecy and is shown to be comparable if not stronger than the other demigods. Percy has even fought against another main player and basically his Roman counterpart Jason Grace and they were shown to be comparable. And Nico di Angelo even says to the rest of the seven that Percy is the most powerful demigod he's ever met and no one, not even Jason disagrees with this notion.

Harry Potter

Dumbledore's Army


As the one who taught the members of Dumbledore's Army proper Defense Against the Dark Arts in his fifth year. Harry should scale more than likely upscale to any feats the members have performed.
  • Ron Weasley slammed a glass train compartment door, hard enough for it to shatter into pieces (Wall Level)
  • The members of the DA were able to contend with multiple Death Eaters, who can destroy buildings (Building Level)
  • Neville Longbottom killed Nagini with The Sword of Gryffindor 
  • Some other Death Eaters are capable of destroying city blocks (City Block Level)

Weaknesses

Percy Jackson


Despite his myriad of strengths and exceptional powers, Percy does have his weaknesses. An example of one of his weaknesses is that he doesn't tend to think through a full strategy often, but he isn't dumb, just very impulsive. Another one is that, as a demigod Percy can be hurt by both man made and mythological weapons like Luke's Backbiter sword which is one half steel sword and one half Celestial Bronze. This also extends to his sword Riptide as it can only hurt beings either mythological or magical in nature. His main weakness, however is his excessive loyalty, something that you'd think would normally be a strength is actually a weakness of Percy's. This is because Percy would risk the world to save his friends, something his enemies have used against him on several occasions.

Harry Potter


Despite his exceptional ability as a wizard, Harry does have his weaknesses. One being that without his wand Harry is pretty much helpless as even though wizards train to do non verbal and wandless magic, Harry struggles significantly with this. Harry's main weakness throughout the books seems to be that he has a bit of a hero complex and has a seriously strong desire to rescue people. This has been used against him by Voldemort before as since the two of them where connected Voldemort sent Harry a message of his godfather captured, only to learn that nothing had happened, but ironically this rash decision led to the death of Sirius.

My Verdict


Stats

In terms of stats in this debate, it's really no contest as Percy blows him out of the water (pun intended). As the best you could really argue for Harry is about Multi-City Block level and the lowest end for Percy is around City Level with multiple other feats and scaling that can get him into the Mountain or more consistently the Island Level with scaling to Hazel sinking an island.

Arsenal & Abilities

When it comes to their arsenal and abilities this should be a tie as neither of them really has an extensive arsenal and they both have a bunch of variety with their abilities as Harry can cast a myriad of spells and Percy can really do whatever he wants with water.

Skill & Experience

When it comes to experience this also isn't a contest as it's established in the epilogue of Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows, that Harry became an Auror after The Battle of Hogwarts and stayed as one for the 19 years since then. But when it comes to skill Percy should have that in the bag as Percy is capable of keeping up with and even surpassing the skill of people that have had far more training than him, especially in swordfights like Carter Kane who had been training for 3 years at the time, Luke Castellan who is said to be the most skilled swordsman that Camp Half-Blood had seen in 300 years, and most notably Jason Grace, who had been training at Camp Jupiter for 12 full years compared to Percy's 5 summers worth of training at Camp Half-Blood. So Harry gets 1 point for being far more experienced, and Percy gets 1 point for being far more skilled.

Conclusion

Percy Jackson


Advantages:
  • Significantly stronger, faster and more durable than Harry
  • Significantly more skilled than Harry
  • Riptide's enchantment completely counters Harry's signature spell
  • As Riptide is made of bronze, a metal, Percy could deflect any of Harry's spells with it
  • Is more than likely resistant to magic, meaning there really isn't anything Harry could do
  • Riptide is capable of harming magicians and since both magicians and wizards use magic, one good slice from Riptide would put Harry down
Disadvantages:
  • Is significantly less experienced than Harry
  • While Percy is more durable than Harry, without Percy's possible magic resistance, Harry's Sectumsepra spell ignores durability outright
  • Also without his possible magic resistance, The Killing Curse, if it hits would instantly kill him

Harry Potter


Advantages:
  • Significantly more experienced than Percy
  • Sectumsempra creates slashes on the targets body meaning it ignores their durability
  • The Killing Curse would instantly kill Percy if it hits
Disadvantages:
  • Significantly weaker, slower, and less durable than Percy
  • Significantly less skilled than Percy
  • Expelliarmus gets completely countered by Riptide's enchantment
  • Riptide could deflect any of Harry's spells as it's made of metal
  • Riptide can harm magicians, and wizards are similar to magicians
  • Percy's possible magic resistance means that there really isn't much Harry can do.
Both of these destined heroes are certainly capable in their own right, but as you can see The Son of The Sea God has more than enough to put down The Boy Who Lived for good. Especially with his possible magic resistance as with it, Harry wouldn't really be able to do anything against Percy. So the winner is PERCY JACKSON. 







 



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Friday, October 4, 2024

Joker VS Sora (Persona VS Kingdom Hearts)

  

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        "Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes" - Carl Jung

Joker, The leader of the leader of the Persona-wielding Phantom Thieves of Hearts in Persona 5

Sora, The Heart Protecting Keyblade-wielding, guardian of light in Kingdom Hearts 

These two heroes have enormous strength of heart, and I'm here to go over who I think has the stronger heart and would win a DEATH BATTLE!

Before We Begin

-I will not be including Shin Megami Tensei for Joker scaling, as though I think it is valid I can understand as to why other people don't think it is.

-I'm also not a mathematician and all the calcs I use will be given proper credit.

-I'm also just one person so if I do make mistakes, I apologize in advance

-Also, this is just my opinion on who I believe would win, you are free to disagree, just be respectful.

-Joker will be getting Persona 5/Royal, Persona Q and Q2, Persona 5 Tactica, Persona 5 Strikers and scaling to the other Persona games

-Sora will be getting the main 3 Kingdom Hearts games, Chain of Memories, Dream Drop Distance and scaling to the other Kingdom Hearts games

-Also be warned that there will be extensive spoilers for most if not all games that I mentioned


Background

Joker

-Credit to Nocverse

Ren Amamiya was just an ordinary high school student. That was until one day he came across a man forcing himself on a woman, and since Ren has a heart with a strong sense of justice; he couldn't just look the other way. This man turned out to be an influential politician with who lead a criminal organization named Masayoshi Shido. This however, led to Ren's arrest as Shido fell and injured himself and sued him. This led to Ren's expulsion from his current high school and his transfer to his new school Shujin Academy, where on his first day of school he and his new friend Ryuji Sakamato accidently enter the Metaverse, an alternate realm based on the collective unconscious. It's in this realm where Joker first awakens to the power of Persona in order to save Ryuji from Kamoshida. In Persona 5 the Metaverse takes the form of  Palaces, alternate realms based on real world locations, with a central Palace of the collective unconscious being based on the Shibuya underground. This realm also takes the form of what the ruler sees it as. For some examples, the Thieves' first target Suguru Kamoshida saw Shujin Academy as his castle, and Shido sees the Diet building as his ship. After changing Kamoshida's heart alongside Ryuji (Skull), their talking cat ally Morgana (Mona) and their friend Ann Takamaki (Panther) they decide to stick around and form the Phantom Thieves of Hearts.

This lead to Joker making a bunch of new friends and getting new teammates, such as Yusuke Kitagawa (Fox), Makoto Niijima (Queen), Futaba Sakura (Oracle), Haru Okumura (Noir), Goro Akechi (Crow) also not really, Sumire Yoshizawa (Violet) who doesn't join until the final Palace of Royal, in Persona 5 Tactica, Erina and Toshiro (they don't have code names) and in Persona 5 Strikers, the AI Sophia (Sophie) and Zenkichi Hasegawa (Wolf). After gaining these allies and more civilian allies called Confidants, up until meeting Haru and having her join the Thieves try and change her father Kunikazu Okumura's heart so she wouldn't be married off to a horrible man. And when the Thieves do succeed tragedy strikes as he undergoes a mental shutdown and dies live on TV during a press conference that was set up as the result of the Phantom Thieves changing his heart. However the Phantom Thieves were not the ones who killed Okumura, that was Goro Akechi, who blackmailed his way into the Phantom Thieves. It was around this time where the events of Persona Q2 happen, where the Phantom Thieves meet and join forces with S.E.E.S. and the Investigation Team. Which are the casts of Persona 3 and 4, but due to time travel and not being allowed to know details of the future for the 3 and 4 casts, they all end up with their memories of these events wiped at the end of the game. Akechi also secretly planned to kill Joker after arresting him. But Joker was able to immediately able to see through this plan and come up with a plan of his own to trick Akechi into thinking that he killed him, when in actuality Joker was still alive. This lead to Joker and the Thieves learning that Akechi worked for Shido  who wanted to use the Metaverse for his own gain, including manipulating his way into becoming the main candidate for Prime Minister of Japan. So Shido became their next and assumedly "final" target.

One day Shido showed up to give a speech around Leblanc, a cafe where Joker and his friends hang out and where Ren lives. Since they were having trouble figuring out the keywords to access Shido's Palace, Ryuji, Haru and Joker decide to go see him speak to get some ideas, this makes Joker finally remember that Shido was the one who sued him all those months ago, making this last heist even more personal for him specifically. In Shido's Palace Akechi finally realizes he was tricked and confronts the Phantom Thieves. They engage in battle where Akechi reveals he also has the power to use more than one persona, however this ends in his defeat as the Phantom Thieves were able to beat him. Immediatley after this Akechi sacrifices himself for the Phantom Thieves in order for them to change the heart of his father. After this the Phantom Thieves do successfully do change his heart even after Shido separates Joker from his teammates, Joker was able to defeat him, and Shido later confessed all of his crimes. This however, seemingly did not stop the public from wanting Shido to become Prime Minister and he wasn't able to be prosecuted due to his organization claiming he needed a psychiatric evaluation. This led to Morgana realizing that in order to change the hearts of the public, they needed to erase Mementos, the Palace of the Public. 

So the Phantom Thieves went to the depths of Mementos, where they encounter the Holy Grail, who was being supported by the masses and was constantly healing itself during their fight. It then proceeded to send the Thieves back to the real world and then fuse the real world with Mementos. And since the cognitive and real worlds had become one and the masses denied the existence of the Phantom Thieves, they faded from existence. However, this doesn't stop Joker as when he fades, he wakes up in the Velvet Room, where Igor orders his execution. But Joker summons his will and then is able to reveal the true form of his Velvet Room attendants, Caroline and Justine by fusing them back into Lavenza. Lavenza then reveals that the Igor that has been present throughout Ren's adventure was a fake and was actually the Holy Grail itself. Once the fake Igor leaves Ren goes to find his teammates and restore their willpower. They then leave the Velvet Room to once again go and fight the Holy Grail, even overcoming it being able to heal itself, as they cut it's wires to the masses. However, the fight was just beginning as the Holy Grail transforms into the God of Control Yaldabaoth whose enormous stature was even able to reach the clouds in the sky and he was able to nearly defeat the Phantom Thieves. However the public's belief in the Phantom Thieves had went from 0% to 100% which reinvigorates the Thieves and Joker in particular. As he summons Arsene, his starting Persona and broke the chains surrounding him it unleashed his true power and Arsene transforms into his ultimate Persona, Satanael who was even able to match Yaldabaoth in stature. Ren and Satanael proceed to shoot Yaldabaoth through the head and kills him, erasing the Metaverse in the process.

However Ren's friend and counselor, Takuto Maruki fully awakened to his Persona on the day that reality merged with the cognitive world and his Persona had the power to alter reality through cognition. And he was able to alter reality back to the point where the fusion of it and the cognitive world wasn't fully undone. After doing this Maruki then altered the very fabric of reality in order to bring about a world that he believes would bring everyone happiness through his own view. However, Ren and Akechi who is now seemingly alive were able to see through this reality and realize it wasn't what it was supposed to be and was able to get his teammates to realize it too. And they decide to stop Maruki as they don't see the reality Maruki created as a utopia. So the Thieves go through Maruki's Palace and even awaken to their third Personas if you maxed out their Confidants. On the Eve of when Maruki's reality would become permanent, he visits Ren at Leblanc one last time to try and convince him one last time to accept his reality. In order to get him to accept it, as a last resort he reveals that Akechi is most likely only alive because he created this new reality and if they oppose him Akechi could die for good. This does not deter Akechi in the slightest and Ren also expresses his desire to oppose Maruki, so they finally fight Maruki and his Persona, Azathoth manage to win. After this Maruki manages to evolve his Persona into Adam Kadmon in a similar manner as to what Joker had done prior. But his effort was futile as the Phantom Thieves are still able to defeat him. But Maruki had one last trick up his sleeve, he fused with Adam Kadmon in order to fully use its power to the fullest extent and is nearly able to defeat the Thieves but they are able to realize his weakness as all of its defenses drop when attacking so the Thieves stall out his attack by using their Persona's to imbue their strength and have Joker use his grappling hook to reach attack Kadmon's head which his defenseless and shoot him through its head in order to knock Maruki out of Adam Kadmon. Then Joker had one final fist fight with Maruki in order to help Maruki kill his regrets. After this the fusion of reality and the Metaverse finally becomes undone once again and the Metaverse is once again erased, and reality is now back to its previous state before Maruki altered it.

After everything that happened in Maruki's reality reverted to what should've happened instead, which included Ren going to juvenile hall in order to testify about the Metaverse in order to properly prosecute Shido. After all of his friends he made throughout his year in Tokyo campaign to get him released from juvie; The police and journalists are able to find the woman who claimed that Ren intentionally hurt Shido and she recanted that testimony, making Ren a free man. And clearing him of his criminal record. 

So once Ren was free and he was about a week from going back to his home in the country the Thieves are transported to a world inside of the mind of a politician named Toshiro Kasukabe. The Thieves then go through Toshiro's mind to try and find their way back home, where they learn that the struggles they're going through were being orchestrated by a god born of mankind's desire for tranquility, Salmael. The Thieves and their new allies Toshiro and Erina do battle with the god and are able to defeat him and return back to the real world. After those events Ren and Morgana says goodbye to all of the friends he made and heads back home for the next couple of months 

During Ren and the Phantom Thieves' summer break, Ren goes back to Tokyo to spend the break with his friends. However, this break quickly turns into having to do business as Ren, Ryuji and Morgana enter a new Metaverse that was created using the AI EMMA by Akira Konoe. And this Metaverse was slightly different as instead of Palaces, the alternate realms were called Jails. They also function differently as Jails are based on cities, compared to locations and buildings like Palaces are. And Jails don't have Treasures and instead have Desires that the Monarchs stole from the people in the city. And the last difference is that when the Desires are sent back to the people and the Monarch returns to itself in the real world the Jail doesn't collapse like Palaces did when their Treasures were stolen. And because these Jails existed and took Desires from the people the Thieves were being scapegoated for the countrywide change of heart epidemic. In order to clear their names the Phantom Thieves traversed through Japan on a road trip in order to find new Jails and give the people their Desires back. This culminated in Osaka as the Phantom Thieves fought Akira Konoe, the head of Maddice, which is the company that developed the Metaverse Jail function into EMMA. They were able to defeat him, however EMMA had basically ascended into Godhood and became the Demiurge like the Holy Grail before it. And using this new power it also merged the Metaverse with Reality and stole the public's Desires. So Joker and the Phantom Thieves fight the Demiurge and are able to defeat it with Joker dealing the final blow. After this a couple of days go by and it marks the end of Ren's summer vacation and he and Morgana head back to his hometown with the promise that he will meet his friends again.

Sora

-Credit to Death Battle

Sora was a normal teenage boy living on the world of Destiny Islands with his best friend and rival Riku and his other best friend and crush Kairi. Who Riku teased him over having a crush on her like before the two had a friendly race; said that the winner would get to share a paopu fruit with her. A paoup fruit is a fruit that if two people share it, is stated that those people will be in their lives forever. And also some characters from the Final Fantasy series of games. That was until on the day before they planned to leave it on a raft to go explore what they think could be other worlds, a severe rainstorm hits; with a cloud seemingly made of darkness passes overhead and shadowy monsters called Heartless invade. This results in Sora looking for Riku and Kairi all throughout Destiny Islands. And at the spot where their raft was he finds Riku saying that the door had been opened to the outside world, and that he wasn't afraid of the darkness. The two then begin to start sinking into the darkness but before Sora could be fully enveloped by the darkness, he receives the Keyblade and it dispels the darkness around him, however Riku had fallen completely into the darkness. This Keyblade helps him defeats the heartless and then he goes to find Kairi. He then finds Kairi inside of The Secret Place. Which is a cave behind the Islands waterfall. When he found her and reached out his arms to grab her, a strong gust of wind blow them away and she ended up phasing through Sora and disappearing. After Sora was blown out of The Secret Place he finds himself face to face with a giant Heartless called Darkside and a cloud of darkness above them. Even after battling the Darkside, Destiny Islands is still swallowed by the cloud of darkness and succumbs to it. And Sora is dragged up to the cloud and after a while ends up waking in Traverse Town. A world that appears when other worlds succumb to darkness and its purpose is to be a temporary home for people whose worlds had succumb to darkness. When he wakes up he travels throughout the world, battling Heartless until he crosses paths with Squall from Final Fantasy VIII who goes by Leon. He then fights Leon and passes out from the exhaustion of fighting such a tough opponent. After this he wakes up in one of the Traverse Towns' apartments and mistakes Yuffie from Final Fantasy VII for Kairi. After this Leon and Yuffie explain what the Keyblade is, what the Heartless are which is monsters who have lost their bodies and try to claim other people's hearts in order to regain their form back, and who Ansem is. Immediately after this the trio are attacked by Heartless and are forced to separate. When Sora goes into the towns Third District he encounters Donald Duck and Goofy, and the three of them take down a swarm of Heartless and a giant Heartless made of armor called Guard Armor. After the three introduce themselves to each other Donald and Goofy ask Sora if he wants to join them on their quest to travel the universe and find their king, and that it was their king's request to follow the key. Sora wanting to find Riku and Kairi, agrees to join them on their quest. The trio travels many worlds on their journey and they end up making a bunch of new friends and allies as a result. Sora even grows closer to Donald and Goofy and sees them as close friends, like he does with Riku and Kairi.

After traveling through those worlds, the trio returns to Traverse Town where they end up finding Riku. Riku reveals that he has a suprising amount of knowledge about the Keyblade and is also able to take it from Sora. He reveals that he is also looking for Kairi. Sora then tries to asks if Riku wants to travel with them but before he could, Riku disappears. Sora being happy with the knowledge that Riku is safe, he departs with Donald and Goofy on their journey again hoping to find Kairi. The trio then end up traveling through more worlds and running into Riku a couple more times. This culminates in the world Neverland where Riku reveals that he has found Kairi, but she's in sort of a daze. Riku then reveals that he has turned to the darkness and summons a Sora made of pure darkness to combat him and leaves. Sora, undeterred goes on to fight Captain Hook who reveals that Riku and Maleficent are residing in the world of Hollow Bastion. The trio then make their way to Hollow Bastion where they once again encounter Riku. Riku then reveals that he was the actual master of Sora's Keyblade and takes it from him. This results in Donald and Goofy leaving him for Riku as their instructions were to follow the key. Sora then fights his way through Hollow Bastion with a wooden sword and The Beast as his ally until encountering Riku once more, where Riku tells him to stand down as he has no power. Sora refuses and says that his friends are his power, which results in Riku firing an attack made of darkness at Sora, but before it could hit him Donald and Goofy return to his side and protect him from the blast. Because of his strength of heart the Keyblade returns to Sora and becomes his permanently. The three then fight and defeat Riku, and move throughout Hollow Bastion until they encounter Maleficent and fight and defeat her. The three then go further throughout the world until they find Kairi's slump body and Riku, who is now being possessed by Ansem reveals that Kairi had lost her heart and that it currently resides in Sora. Ansem then tries to release Kairi's heart from Sora, but Sora fights back and is able to defeat him. However in order to free Kairi's heart he stabs himself with Ansem's Keyblade, which does release her heart but also turns him into a Heartless. While he was a Heartless he made his way towards Donald, Goofy and Kairi, and Kairi somehow recognizes him which lets him return to his normal self. The Final Fantasy characters then arrive at Hollow Bastion and tell the trio that Ansem was once a wise person who was their leader and that Hollow Bastion is their home world. They also tell them that Ansem is most likely waiting for them in a different world called The End of The World. Which is a culmination of all the worlds that had fallen to darkness. Before going to battle Ansem, the trio go back to Traverse Town in order to place Kairi somewhere safe from harm. Sora and Kairi then talk and Kairi gives him a lucky charm she made for him back on Destiny Islands and makes him promise to come back and give her charm back, and Sora departs with Donald and Goofy. Upon finding Ansem, the trio have one final battle with him and are able to defeat him, however he tries to open the door to Kingdom Hearts as he thinks it's darkness, but Sora realizes that Kingdom Hearts is light which makes the door open and light burst out of it and destroy Ansem. The trio then try and close the door before Heartless come out of it as the door doubled as a means to enter or leave the realm of darkness. Just then a free from possession Riku appears on the other side of the door to help as it can only be closed from both sides, he also has help in the form of the king Donald and Goofy have been searching for, Mickey. Mickey then requests Sora's help in order to close the door to darkness, which they succeed in. This results in the worlds that had fallen to darkness being restored and Sora sees Kairi and he tells her he has to go look for Riku and King Mickey. He also promises to meet Kairi again. After this the events of Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories happen, where Sora's memories are messed with and he, Donald and Goofy are put in sleep pods in order to restore the memories to what they should be.

After about a year of sleep, Sora, Donald and Goofy wake up with their memories restored in the world of Twilight Town and soon after waking the trio encounter some new people Hayner, Pence and Olette. Sora, Donald and Goofy then ask them if they have seen people who look like either King Mickey or Riku, and they say they saw someone with pretty big ears by the town's train station. The trio then venture to the station where they find King Mickey. He tells them to board a specific train and talk to his master Yen Sid as they have missed a lot during the year that they were asleep. So the trio make take the train to the Mysterious Tower and Yen Sid fills them in on a new threat called Nobodies which are similar yet different to the Heartless. They are similar because they also have lost their true forms, however they're different because they kept their bodies but lost their hearts which results in their body being basically a shell. And Organization XII an evil organization made entirely of Nobodies. Yen Sid then has the three fairy Godmothers from Sleeping Beauty give Sora new clothes as he had outgrown his old ones during his year long slumber. These new clothes also gave him a new ability to transform into new forms called Drive Forms. Then Yen Sid tells them to go to Hollow Bastion to help the Final Fantasy characters restore their world from the damage it had taken back in Kingdom Hearts 1. The trio then make their way to Hollow Bastion and helped Leon and the others try and restore it, but before they could the Organization unleashed Nobodies on the world to do more damage to the world. Sora and the others are able to stop them and after this Sora, Donald and Goofy travel through more worlds and meet up with some of their old friends and also make new ones. A bit after this, the trio are summoned to Disney Castle as it's power source the Cornerstone of Light which protects it from darkness was being attacked. The trio then go to the Cornerstone's hall and are able to go into a past world called Timeless River, which is the world detailing how Mickey built Disney Castle. The trio are able to stop the Cornerstone from being destroyed by Pete, by teaming up with his past self. The trio then return to Twilight Town and have to fight off more nobodies summoned by one of the Organization members, Saix. After driving off the nobodies Hayner, Pence and Olette find and tell Sora that Kairi was there, but she got kidnapped by a different Organization member named Axel. Sora vows to find Riku and Kairi and heads off with Donald and Goofy to travel more worlds.

The trio then head back to Hollow Bastion, which is under even more danger than the last time that they visited, as not just Heartless and Nobodies are attacking the world but also it's own defense system. The trio then accompany Leon who had found Ansem's study and his computer which he thinks should hold the solution to their conundrum. When Sora messes with the studies computer, he Donald and Goofy are digitized by it's Master Control Program and are transported to a world inside the computer called Space Paranoids, where they meet Tron. Tron then helps them find their way back to the outside and King Mickey also came to help. King Mickey helps Tron be able to access Ansem's database, and with the help of Sora, Donald and Goofy help Tron defeat the MCP in order to get the world's defense system to stop attacking it. Mickey then reveals to the trio that the "Ansem" that they fought wasn't the real one and was actually the Heartless of one of Ansem's students, named Xehanort. He also reveals that Xehanort's Nobody, Xemnas is the leader of Organization XIII. Just then the Organization unleashes countless hordes of Heartless and Nobodies on the world in an attempt to take over Hollow Bastion. King Mickey tells the trio to leave the fight to him and the inhabitants of the world but they refuse and join the fight as well. Sora is then seperated from his friends and is forced to do battle with 1000 Heartless on his own and is able to defeat them. After this Sora runs into Saix, and Saix tells Sora that with every Heartless he defeats, another Heart gets added to the Organization's version of Kingdom Hearts, and then tells him that Kairi is with the Organization. Sora then begs him to tell him where Kairi is, and Saix refuses and then leaves. Sora then talks to the Final Fantasy characters who tell him that they finally remember the true name of Hollow Bastion, Radiant Garden. Sora then joins up with Donald and Goofy once more and with determination to find Riku and Kairi once and for all, and to stop Xemnas. 

The trio then resume their journey hoping to find the Organization's headquarters and even run into a member of the Organization, Xaldin in the world of Beauty and The Beast and defeat him there. They then return to Twilight Town looking for clues in order to find the Organization's HQ. They are soon joined by King Mickey and return back to where Sora, Donald and Goofy had woken up earlier in their journey and find a computer used by the real Ansem and use it to enter an alternate digital Twilight Town. This alternate Twilight Town houses a passageway to the Oraganization HQ. Before the quartet could actually enter the world, they were surrounded by a horde of Nobodies to try and prevent them into entering it. However another Organization member Axel turns traitor to the Organization and sacrifices himself in order to wipe out the horde. As Axel begins to fade, he apologizes to Sora for kidnapping Kairi and opens a portal to the Organization HQ, which is a world that could never be. It was called The World That Never Was. Upon entering the world Sora is confronted by a hooded figure who transports him to his Station of Awakening, a place located within Sora's heart, to do battle with him. Sora is able to defeat him and is then transported back to the real world. He, Donald, Goofy and Mickey then go into the Organization's castle in order to stop them from finishing their version of Kingdom Hearts. Saix then sets a massive horde of Heartless upon them and Sora, Donald and Goofy are forced to fight them, but just then the Heartless on the upper level start being taken out by Kairi and Riku who has taken the form of Xehanort's Heartless. After taking out the Heartless Sora has to fight Xigbar another Organization member who calls him Roxas, and is able to defeat him. The trio then make their way further into the castle where Sora finally reunites with his best friends. The group then goes further into the castle and have to fight two of the last three Organization members Luxord and Saix, who both also call Sora by a different name, Roxas. Sora then asks why they keep calling him that, and Riku reveals that Roxas was his Nobody, that was created when he stabbed himself in order to free Kairi's heart. Sora then realizes that the hooded figure he fought in his own heart was Roxas. After this the group runs into a robed man, who in actuality was the original Ansem, known as Ansem The Wise. He uses a device in order to destroy the man-made Kingdom Hearts, even though it will also destroy him. As he does this, it succeeds in it's goal and even restores Riku back to his true form as a side effect. Sora and the others then go ahead to finally defeat Xemnas, and Sora is reunited with Roxas for one final conversation. Then Namine, Kairi's Nobody, opened a portal back to Destiny Islands. But before Sora and Riku could enter the portal Xemnas reveals the he had survived and the duo go off to face him one last time. The duo are able to defeat him and after have no choice but to go through a random portal that leads to the Realm of Darkness. After talking for a bit in the realm of darkness, a bottle washes up at the sea with a note and Sora reads it, which results in a Door to Light appearing before them and the duo enter it, and end up back at Destiny Islands where they reunite with their friends, and Sora is finally able to give Kairi her charm back. An unknown amount of time later Kairi finds a note on the Island's shore from King Mickey and Sora reads it and is filled with some new determination to continue his journey.

A bit after this Sora and Riku travel back to the Mysterious Tower to take their Mark of Mastery exam to officially become Keyblade Masters, as that's what Mickey told them to do in his note. The reason Mickey told them to do this is because he needs their help to rescue his old friends and Keyblade wielders Terra, Aqua and Ventus and free them from their hurt. And they need to be Keyblade Masters to do so. Yen Sid then tells the duo the other reason for this exam is because both Xehanort's Heartless and Nobody had been destroyed it would mean the return of Xehanort's true form and they need to be Keyblade Masters in order to stop him as Xehanort himself is one of the most dangerous Keyblade Masters to ever exist. Sora initially refuses to take the exam but is swayed to take it by Riku. Yen Sid then tells the two of them that in order to become true Keyblade Masters they must go through seven sleeping worlds which had fallen to darkness back in the first game but had not fully come back yet and are therefore sleeping. Sora and Riku begin their journey through the sleeping worlds on Destiny Islands back when it fell to the darkness. After doing battle with Ursula from the Little Mermaid, the duo are split apart through unknown methods and wake up in alternate but linked versions of Traverse Town. After meeting Neku, Joshua and Rhyme from The World Ends With You who mentor him, Sora departs on his journey to wake the sleeping worlds. Several times during his journey he encounters a young man who has strange ties to Xehanort and he is normally accompanied by Ansem and Xemnas who Sora believed to be destroyed. After waking all seven sleeping worlds Sora ends up back in The World That Never was rather than back in the Realm of Light. Sora then encounters Xigbar who tells him that the Organization planned for this from the start. He is then taken by the young man with ties to Xehanort and reveals to him that he is a younger version of Xehanort who agreed to help with his older self's plan. Young Xehanort then allows for Sora to go further into the world's castle, where he finds Xigbar and Xemnas who is very much alive again. The two of them then reveal to Sora that the true purpose of Organization XII is to create thirteen vessels for Xehanort to put his essence in so that they can do battle with seven guardians of light to create the X-blade and that the final vessel they plan to use is Sora himself. Sora refuses and utters that his friends are his power once again and fights and defeats Xemnas, but his heart is badly weakened in this encounter and he falls to the darkness. This results in him almost becoming the last vessel needed for Xehanort's plan but due to help from Riku, King Mickey, and Axel who know goes by Lea as his true form has been restored due to his Nobody being defeated, he is able to come away from this encounter without becoming Xehanort's vessel. Although because of this and not being able to use the power of waking anymore, which is the power to wake sleeping hearts Sora fails his Mark of Mastery exam but he is happy that Riku was able to pass it. 

Soon after this Yen Sid summons Sora, Donald and Goofy to the Mysterious Tower and tells them to go on a journey throughout worlds and to, "let his heart be his guiding key". Sora follows this advice and heads off to the world of Olympus Colosseum to see Hercules one more time to get his advice on how to get lost power back. The reason why Sora asks Hercules this is because after he almost fell to the darkness most of his strength and powers, including the ability to use the power of waking and enter Drive Forms, and Hercules had experienced something similar with losing his strength and being able to regain it.  Before Sora could ask Hercules for his advice, he Donald and Goofy had to help Hercules out with the World being under attack from the Titans and Hades and are able to succeed in driving off Hades from taking over Olympus. Hercules then tells Sora that he should be able to regain his lost strength and powers by fighting with all his heart. The trio then go back to the Mysterious Tower and Sora tells Yen Sid that he might not be able to regain his strength currently, but he'll try to. Yen Sid then gifts Sora some new clothes, with a new ability to replace his lost Drive Forms with Keyblade Formchanges which can sort of be seen as an evolution of his Drive Forms and the trio depart to Twilight Town to create data and a vessel for Roxas' heart as Sora learns that another heart resides within him and believes it to be Roxas'. Although another former Organization member Ienzo formerly known as Zexion believes it to be a different heart because it has been with Sora since he was young. As the trio travel throughout the world they encounter Hayner, Pence and Olette running away from a horde of Heartless and fight the Heartless to protect them and the town. The trio then encounter Ansem, Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas who pressure Sora into wanting to resurrect Roxas in the actual Twilight Town rather than the digital one he was planning to use. Sora then talks to Riku to learn about how the Replica Program works and finds out that Roxas can only be resurrected by making a vessel with this program that way his heart has a place to reside. Filled with determinaton to free Roxas from himself, he continues on his journey with Donald and Goofy throughout the worlds to try and regain his lost power.

After traveling throughout many more worlds which now include Pixar movies, the trio learn that the side of light has lost contact with Riku and King Mickey who went to the realm of darkness in order to save Aqua. Sora then opens a gate that leads the trio to Destiny Islands where Sora finds an old Keyblade which he uses to open a door to the Realm Of Darkness where he goes alone in order to save Riku and King Mickey. When Sora arrives in the Realm of Darkness he sees Riku battling Aqua who had fallen to the darkness and Sora takes over the fight for him and is able to defeat her and take her back to the realm of light, finally freeing her from her hurt. After this Aqua takes Sora, Donald and Goofy to Castle Oblivion, which they don't recognize. The reason for this is because Ventus was hidden in this castle's original form called the Land of Departure. The group finds Ventus sleeping as his heart is no longer in his body, but after they're attacked by another Organization member named Vanitas, Sora is able to regain the power of waking which gives Ventus his heart back, as the heart that had been with Sora since he was a young boy was that of Ventus'. Soon after this encounter the group goes to the Mysterious Tower in order to formulate a plan and gather all seven guardians of light, which now includes Axel/Lea as he can now use a Keyblade. Sora and Kairi then go back to Destiny Islands one more time where they exchange paoupu fruits with each other. The guardians of light, plus Donald and Goofy then go to the world of The Keyblade Graveyard for their battle with the True Organization XIII which are Xehanort's thirteen darkness's he needs to battle the seven guardians of light in order to form the true  X-Blade and open Kingdom Hearts. The Orginization then unleashes a horde of Heartless and Nobodies to fight the guardians and the guardians are able to win, however the guardians then encounter the final lost Keyblade wielder Terra, who catches them off guard as Xehanort had taken over his heart and body and he critically injures Axel/Lea and Ventus. Then a horde of Heartless called a Demon Tide overwhelms and kills each guardian one by one with a sort of exception for Sora. After being overwhelmed by the Demon Tide, Sora arrives in the Final World a world that is the edge of reality just before a heart ceases to exist. In this world Sora learns of his defeat from a being called a Chirithy learns that he is not quite dead yet, but in pieces conceptually. With the help of Chirithy and a bodiless Namine, Sora uses the Power of Waking to piece himself back together and restore the hearts of the other guardians of light. After using this power so much, Young Xehanort warns him that abusing this power would result in dire consequences. Sora then uses the power of waking one more time to go back to the time before everyone was defeated by the Demon Tide. Sora then helps the guardians defeat members of the True Organization, and even help Terra regain control of his body and he joins the side of light, and later on Sora manages to free Roxas's heart from his own and Roxas joins the fight with the guardians after getting his vessel to store his heart. After this Sora joins Riku and King Mickey in a 3 on 3 battle against Young Xehanort, Ansem and Xemnas, who had kidnapped Kairi and delivered her to Xehanort earlier. After Sora, Riku and Mickey defeat the fan-dubbed "Nort Court" Xehanort reveals he only needs one more battle to happen in order to form the X-blade. So in order to do this he summons Kairi and freezes her then slashing her with his Keyblade, destroying her body in the process, goading Sora into attacking him, which classifies as a battle. This results in in the X-blade forming and Xehanort proceeds to use it to open the true Kingdom Hearts in order to reset all of the worlds in the Universe. However before Xehanort is able to reset everything the guardians of light are able to realize that Xehanort's time travel abilities could be used against him, and make a portal by using those powers trapping Xehanort in his old home, the world of Scala ad Caelum. Sora then tries to go alone as the other guardians of light try to close Kingdom Hearts, but Donald and Goofy join him in his fight against Xehanort. The trio then go through the portal to Scala ad Caelum, where after an extensive battle they are able to defeat him. After this, the other Keyblade wielders join the trio and the heart of Xehanort's  childhood best friend Eraqus emerges from Terra and he manages to convince Xehanort to surrender and entrust the future to the younger generation. Xehanort finally surrenders and even gives Sora the X-blade to use wisely and Xehanort and Eraqus then fade away. After that event Sora uses the X-blade to travel back to the Keyblade Graveyard and help the guardians close Kingdom Hearts seemingly for good.

But before he could go back Sora is determined to restore Kairi's heart with the power of waking like he had done for the guardians prior, so Sora sets of on a time traveling journey in order to piece back Kairi's heart. Before he does, he arrives in the Final World again where Chirithy tells him that if he continues to abuse the power of waking like he has, he will lose the power again and fade away, but Sora says that he doesn't care and he goes through with his plan to save Kairi. Sora is able to succeed in his goal to save Kairi, and after reuniting the two of them return back to the final world where Sora calls for Chirithy in order to take it to it's friend. After leaving the final world Sora and Kairi travel throughout many worlds together where they watch their friends finally get their happy endings after all of their struggle. They even have a giant get together on Destiny Islands where they all spend time together and Sora spends most of his time with Kairi for one last time before he fades away as his consequence for abusing the power of waking.


Experience/Skill/Battle IQ

Joker


In terms of combat experience and battle IQ Joker has been fighting the Shadows with the Phantom Thieves for about a year. Joker is also able to quickly learn things outside of combat like with being able to perfectly replicate Sojiro's coffee and curry after a short time studying under him and being able to expertly wield a gun after training with Shinya Oda in a gun game. He also trains in the Protein Lovers Gym in order to increase his stamina. He can even integrate things he learns with his Confidants in the real world into the Metaverse, like with Hifumi Togo's Shogi strategies, he is able to translate those strategies into his own unique style of battle strategies with the Phantom Thieves in the Metaverse. Joker also shows an ability to adapt to his environment and use tools around him with Phantom Dashes, like using skateboards and shopping carts to mow down mobs of Shadows, dropping chandeliers on Shadows, and blowing up cars and destroying glaciers to do elemental damage to them. Although Joker doesn't have much experience fighting own his own as he usually has his friends with him, but he is capable of going solo if need be. All in all Joker is a pretty capable fighter and stategist with an exceptional ability to both adapt and use his environment to his advantage.


Sora


In terms of experience Sora has been battling the forces of darkness with the Keyblade for a little over a year now. Although he has significantly more experience with his fighting style thanks to all of the years of dueling with Riku, which is the fighting style he adopts when using the Keyblade. While he might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, his combat IQ is nothing to scoff at. He can adapt to pretty much any situation and one of his greatest weapons is his skill at improvising by using what's in his environment to mow down Heartless and Nobodies like it's nothing with his Reaction Commands. He can even use these to attack the forces of darkness with their own allies like he does in The Battle of 1,000 Heartless. Another example is dropping a giant chandelier on a Heartless and spinning it so hard it goes flying. All in all, while Sora might not be the brightest he is still an exceptional fighter in his own right.


Arsenal/Equipment

Joker

Phantom Thief Attire


Joker's Phantom Thief Attire is the manifestation of his will of rebellion, which gives it it's appearance as that's what he believes a rebel looks like. It also doubles as a way to protect him from the distortions of people's corrupted hearts, and the ability for him to summon his Personas. And this protection is so potent that even a god born from the Collective Unconscious are unable to erase a Persona Users will.

Metaverse Navigator


This app on Ren's phone allows him to enter Mementos and Palaces. And in Persona 5 Strikers it allows him to enter Jails


Knife


Joker's melee weapon he uses when not using his Persona. He uses this to deal physical damage can  perform lengthy combos with it and can even pickpocket items from his enemies with it. 

Handgun


Joker's preferred way to deal with Shadows when not using his Persona. It can even pierce through enemy resistances, immunities, reflections, and absorptions. Although it cannot pierce the reflection skill Tetrakarn. In Strikers it had the ability to gain more ammo and recharge it's bullets on it's own, but in Tactica it gives him unlimited ammo and as I'm giving both fighters their abilities at their best, his gun will be given unlimited ammo.

Grappling Hook



A tool given to him by Morgana, Joker can use his grappling hook to get around Palaces easier and can even pull himself to his enemies to ambush them or pull his enemies to him.

Infiltration Tools


Joker has a bunch of tools that he can craft in order to infiltrate Palaces more easily, the most notable ones being a smokescreen to help him avoid detection from his enemies and lockpicks to open locked chests and steal the valuables inside like the thief he is.


Sora

Special KHII Outfit


Sora's outfit in Kingdom Hearts II. It was gifted to him by the fairies from Sleeping Beauty. It gave Sora the power to enter Drive Forms. While he doesn't have this outfit or power anymore I believe it's important to go over since his KHIII outfit and powers can be seen as an evolution of this one

Special KHIII Outfit



This is the most recent outfit Sora wears in Kingdom Hearts III. It is another gift from the good fairies and is a special outfit meant to protect the wearer from darkness. It also comes with special powers, allowing him to use Keyblade Formchanges like his Kingdom Hearts II outfit gave him his power to enter Drive Forms.

Keyblades & Shotlocks

Kingdom Key




The Kingdom Key is Sora's default Keyblade that he starts every journey with. It comes with the Shotlock abilities King of Hearts which fires a burst of projectiles and Ragnarök which fires streams of light. Sora can change his Keyblade's appearance by changing it's Keychain which comes with new abilities and stats. For the sake of my sanity I will only go over the Keyblades he has in Kingdom Hearts III.

Hero's Origin


The transformation his Keyblade undergoes after getting a Keychain from exploring Olympus Colosseum. It specializes in offensive stats. It has the shotlocks Drain Shock which can drain HP from his foes and Atomic Deluge which transforms the Keyblade into a shield in order to scatter lighting.


Shooting Star


The Keyblade Sora gets after going to Little Chef's Bistro (Little Chef is Remy from Ratatouille), and exploring Twilight Town. It emphasizes Sora's magic stats. It comes with the Shotlock abilities Meteor Shower which sends shooting stars at his opponents, Cluster Cannonade which uses a giant launcher to launch a giant rocket that splits off into smaller projectiles, and Diving Barrage which rains down magical arrows on his enemies


Favorite Deputy



The Keyblade Sora gets after exploring Toy Box. It emphasizes Sora's strength stats. Its Shotlock abilities are Ghost Horde which sends a horde of ghosts that charge at his opponents and Drill Drive which allows him to warp and fly around his targets.


Ever After



The Keyblade Sora gets after exploring The Kingdom of Corona. It emphasizes Sora's magic stats. Its Shotlocks are Shimmering Drops which does the same thing as Drain Shock, and Spectral Rays which surrounds Sora with reflectors with Sora using magical light to bounce of them and attack his enemies with.


Happy Gear



The Keyblade Sora gets after exploring the world of Monstropolis. It enhances Sora's strength stats. Its Shotlocks are Snakebite which fires snake-like projectiles from his Keyblade, and Warp Trick which opens a bunch of portals allowing Sora to attack from all directions


Crystal Snow


The Keyblade Sora gets after exploring Arendelle. It specializes in magic stats. Its Shotlocks are Diamond Dust which launches spinning ice blades at his opponents, and Frozen Crescents which allows Sora to slash at his opponents with ice.


Hunny Spout



The Keyblade Sora gets after exploring the picture book world of 100 Acre Wood. It's balanced in both strength and magic. It has basically the same Shotlocks as Sora's Shooting Star Keyblade but with Honey instead of Magic


Nano Gear



The Keyblade Sora gets after exploring San Fransokyo. It is well balanced in both offensive and magic stats. It's Shotlocks do the same thing as Happy Gear but with block-like projectiles and portals instead of snake-like ones.


Wheel of Fate


The Keyblade he gets after exploring The Caribbean. It focuses on strength stats. Its Shotlocks do the same thing as Crystal Snow, but with wind rather than ice.


Starlight


The Keyblade given to Sora by Yen Sid after defeating the Demon Tide. This is the default Keyblade of Keyblade Wielders from the age of Fairy Tales. It has the same Shotlocks as Sora's Kingdom Key


Grand Chef


The Keyblade Sora gets after helping Little Chef's Bistro gain more popularity. It specializes in magic. Its Shotlocks are Steam Spiral which sends fireworks at his targets, and Fruit Crusher which does the same thing Atomic Deluge but with fruit rather than lightning.

Classic Tone



The Keyblade Sora gets after getting a High Score in every Classic Kingdom mini-game. It specializes in magic stats. It's Shotlocks do the same thing as Happy Gears Shotlocks.

Oathkeeper


Another Keyblade Sora has had for years, as the Keychain needed to use this Keyblade is the lucky charm Kairi made for Sora back on Destiny Islands. It represents Sora's close bond with Kairi and the light within him. It's Shotlock ability is Sunray Blast, which blasts Sora's enemies with shards of light. It also shares a Shotlock with Oblivion called Stellar Inception, which creates a galaxy of stars Sora can attack his opponents with.

Oblivion



The last Keyblade that Sora has had for most of his journey. This Keyblade represents Sora's close bond with Riku and the darkness within  him. It's Shotlock ability is Bladefury eclipse which launches spinning dark blades as his opponents. It also shares a Shotlock with Oathkeeper called Stellar Inception, which creates a galaxy of stars Sora can attack his opponents with.



Ultima Weapon


The ultimate Keyblade Sora can acquire in game, it is both the strongest and most well balanced Keyblade in Kingdom Hearts III. It's Shotlock is Infinity Circle which gathers a massive amount of magic and unleashes it, basically a solar flare but with non elemental magic.


X-blade


Sora was given this weapon by Xehanort after defeating him. This is the original and most powerful Keyblade in which all future Keyblades are modeled after. This weapon has the power to open the true form of Kingdom Hearts and can threaten to reset everything. Sora uses it to close Kingdom Hearts but we never see him use it after, but for the sake of the debate I'm going to give him the X-blade.

Powers/Abilities

Joker

Personas/Wild Card

Joker's main abilty is to summon his Personas. A Persona is ones inner self called a Shadow as everyone has one, tamed and manifest This can also be seen as the power of one's heart. Typically only one heart exists per person so a person can only wield one Persona, however Joker and a few others have a special abilty called the Wild Card. The Wild Card ability allows Joker to wield more than one Persona and at most he has close to 300 of them. Joker also has the ability to switch out these Personas for a different one because of this ability. But for the sake of me not going insane and wanting to touch grass I'm only going to go over Joker's starting Persona, the ultimate Personas he gets for maxing out his confidants, some other Personas I think would be interesting and his true Ultimate Persona

Arsene



Joker's starting Persona which he awakened to protect Ryuji from Kamoshida. He is based on the gentleman thief from the novels of Maurice Leblanc. He specializes in Curse spells and is weak to Ice and Bless spells.

Jack Frost


Hee-ho! Jack Frost is one of the earliest Personas Joker can get, part of the "Jack" series of Personas and is basically Atlus's mascot.  He specializes in and nulls Ice attacks and is weak to Fire attacks.


Jack-o'-Lantern


Another early Persona and another part of the Jack series, He specializes in and drains Fire attacks, but is weak to Wind and Ice attacks.

King Frost


Another Persona from the "Jack" series. He rules over an infinite amount of Jack Frost's and is able to freeze the world but is unaware of  his power due to his naiveness. He specializes in and drains Ice attacks and is immune to Bless attacks.

Black Frost



The final and strongest Persona of the "Jack" series. He is a Jack Frost that remembered his true nature as a demon and becomes evil. He specializes in and absorbs Ice attacks, reflects Fire and Curse attacks and blocks Nuclear attacks.

Yoshitsune


One of Joker's more powerful Personas, he is based on the samurai from the 12th century. He specializes in and is invulnerable to physical attacks, and reflects electricity and bless attacks. He also has a special skill called Hassou Tobi which attacks his opponent eight times in a row. 

Vishnu


One of Joker's Ultimate Personas. It represents Joker's bond with the fake Igor. He is a major Hindu god and acts as the protector and preserver of the universe. He absorbs Ice, blocks Bless and Curse and is weak to Fire attacks.


Futsunushi




This Persona represents Joker's bond with Morgana. He specializes in physical attacks and buffing Joker's power and is weak to nuclear attacks.


Cybele

This Persona represents Joker's bond with Makoto. She's the Phrygian goddess of the earth and had Attis as her priest and lover until he was forced to marry another leading to her making Attis go mad. She specializes in recovery/healing spells. She blocks Bless and is weak to Electricity.

Mother Harlot


This Persona represents Joker's bond with Haru. She specializes in Ice, reflects Electricity, blocks Curse and is weak to Bless. 

Odin


This Persona represents Joker's bond with Yusuke. He is the leader of the Norse gods. He specializes in and blocks Electricity, reflects both Bless and Curse and absorbs Wind.



Kohryu


This Persona represents Ren's familial like bond with Sojiro Sakura. This dragon has the might to move all of creation. It both specializes in and is weak to Psychokinetic skills. He also reflects Electricity and blocks Nuclear and Bless skills.


Ishtar



This Persona represents Joker's bond with Ann. She is the Mesopotamian goddess of war and love and specializes in healing/recovery skills. She blocks Electricity but is weak to Wind


Chi You


This Persona represents Joker's bond with Ryuji. He is a Chinese god of war who has invented many weapons. He specializes in and is immune to Psychokinetic skills and is weak to Nuclear skills.


Metatron


This Persona represents Joker's complicated bond with Akechi. He is the greatest angel in Judeo-Christianity and the Voice of God. He specializes in Bless skills and instakills, reflects Wind skills, absorbs Psychokinetic and Nuclear skills and is weak to Electricity and Curse skills. 


Ongyo-Ki


This Persona represents Joker's familial-like bond with Futaba Sakura. He specializes in physical and buff skills and reflects both bless and curse skills.


Lakshmi


This Persona represents Ren's bond with the fortune teller Chihaya Mifune. She's the Hindu goddess of beauty and good fortune and also Vishnu's wife. She specializes in recovery skills, resists ice and bless skills but is weak to fire.


Zaou-Gongen


This Persona represents Joker's bond with his Velvet Room attendant Lavenza. He specializes in and reflects fire skills, blocks bless and curse skills but is weak to electricity skills.

Attis


This Persona represents Ren's bond with his weapons dealer Munehisa Iwai. He's a Phrygian god who symbolizes life, death, and rebirth. He was pined after by Cybele but rejected her which led to Cybele driving him mad, and Attis cutting certain body parts off leading to his death before being revived by Cybele. He specializes in and blocks fire skills, reflects wind and is weak to curse.

Alice


This Persona represents Ren's bond with his doctor and physician Tae Takemi. She specializes in Curse instakill skills and has a unique skill called Die For Me! She reflects Curse skills, resists Psy and Nuke and is weak to Bless.

Ardha


This Persona represents Ren's bond with his homeroom teacher and part time maid, Sadayo Kawakami. It is a god of dual gender whose body is half Shiva the destroyer and the other half is his wife Parvati. They are immune to ice and electricity skills and resist physical skills.


Beelzebub


This Persona represents Ren's bond with the reporter Ichiko Ohya. He is the Demonic Lord of the Flies. He specializes in and reflects curse skills, absorbs fire skills but is weak to bless skills.


Mada


This Persona represents Ren's bond with his gun wielding teacher, Shinya Oda. He is a giant Hindu monster with a mouth large enough to swallow the universe. He specializes in and absorbs fire skills, blocks nuke skills, resists Psy skills and is weak to Ice skills.


Maria


This Persona represents Joker's bond with Sumire. She is the maternal figure of Christianity. She specializes in healing skills and allows Joker to regenerate his health and SP. She absorbs Bless, blocks Wind and is weak to Fire


Vohu Manah



This Persona represents Ren's bond with Maruki. This thing is apparently a divine spark that reveals revelations from God. It absorbs Bless, blocks Curse and is weak to Wind.


Lucifer


One of the strongest Personas Joker can get. It represents Ren's bond with popular shogi player Hifumi Togo. He is the original fallen angel after rebelling against God and suffering defeat. He now waits for his second chance to challenge God. He comes with an exclusive Almighty spell called Morning Star. Almighty moves are skills that can bypass any magical defenses, including the magic reflecting skill Makarakarn and the Omnipotent Orb which bends the laws of the universe to protect its wielder. He absorbs Curse, blocks Physical and Gun but is weak to Bless

Satanael


Joker's Ultimate Persona and the culmination of all of his bonds. Satanael comes with a unique Almighty spell called Sinful Shell, a bullet made of all seven deadly sins that can even pierce a god. In gameplay he either blocks, absorbs or resists every damage type in the game but in lore he is completely impervious to damage as he was able to block an Almighty move. And like I went over with giving Sora the X-blade and Joker's gun infinite ammo, I'm going to be using everything at their strongest, so I will be using the giant impervious Satanael form. 


Velvet Room


Joker has the ability to enter the Velvet Room, which is a room that exists outside of space and time. It also reflects the current state of the guests heart. Gameplay wise he can only enter the room in certain locations but lore-wise he can enter the room whenever, be it physically or more commonly mentally due to a contract that links him to the room. He was even able enter it mid-battle against Shadow Kamoshida in the anime and even fused a new Persona.

Trickster Nature


Joker is the the Trickster. This a being who can change their fate and the fate of others. His most well known example of altering fate is being able to alter the fortune teller Chihaya Mifune's predictions, who previously had a 100% rate of being able to tell fortune correctly. In Persona 5 Tactica it's revealed in Joker's character memo that he was given the moniker of Trickster because of his ability to alter fate. Also after defeating Maruki, who had become a reality warping god stronger than Yaldabaoth, Maruki stated he would lose if he were to try and fight the Thieves again.

Confidant Abilities

Third Eye


An ability given to Joker by the fake Igor/God of Control. He can use this ability to highlight objects of interest, see the power level of his enemies relative to himself and see things that would normally be invisible to the naked eye. He can even use this to cause time to slow from his perspective.


Down Shot



An ability Joker gets from learning from Shinya Oda. This ability automatically downs Joker's opponent. He can use it a maximum of three times per Palace or Mementos infiltration.

Mindfulness


An ability Joker gains from his mental training with Maruki. This gives Joker a chance to recover his SP when it's low. An extension of this ability is called Wakefulness which raises the amount of SP Joker can recover.


Detox


Another ability Joker gains from his mental training with Maruki. This gives Joker the chance to immediately recover from any status ailment. An extension of this ability is called Detox DX, which raises the chance of Joker immediately recovering from status ailments.


Status Ailments

And speaking of status ailments, Joker can use his various Personas in order to inflict status ailments on his enemies, for the sake of not making this blog ungodly fu**ing long, I'm only going to go over a couple I think are important to mention.

Burn


This status effect can happen as a result of Joker using fire spells, it causes his opponent to lose 10% of their HP over time until it gets dispelled

Freeze


Joker can inflict this status ailment on his enemies as a result of using ice spells. It causes his opponent to be immobilized for a brief period of time or until Joker hits them.

Shock


Joker can inflict this ailment as a result of using electricity skills on his enemies. It causes the enemy's movement to slow down dramatically.

Sleep


This ailment does what it says, it makes the target go to sleep, immobilizing them for a short period of time or until they get hit similar to freeze. Joker can inflict it this status ailment with the spells Dormina, Lullaby or Phantom Snow.

Forget


This ailment also does what it says, which is make the target forget how to use skills and makes Persona users forget how to summon their Personas. Joker can inflict this ailment

Support Skills


Joker can use support skills in order to buff his stats, debuff his enemies stats, heal from damage, recover from status ailments and even reflect damage. For brevity's sake I'm only going to list a couple of these skills.


Diarahan


This spell fully heals Joker's HP.

Amrita Drop


This spell can heal Joker from any status ailment inflicted upon him.

Salvation


This skill both heals all of Joker's HP and also heals Joker from any status ailments inflicted on him at the same time.

Tarukaja


This skill increases Joker's attack power for a short period of time

Rakukaja


This skill increases Joker's defense for a short period of time

Sukukaja

This skill increases Joker's speed for a short period of time.

Heat Riser


This skill increases all three of Joker's attack, defense and speed stats at the same time for a short period of time.

Dekaja


This skill removes the effects of the buffing skills I just went over, including Heat Riser.

 Rakunda


This skill lowers the defense of Joker's target for a brief period of time.

Tarunda


This skill lowers the attack of Joker's target for a brief period of time.

Sukunda


This skill lowers the speed of Joker's target for a brief period of time.

Debilitate


This skill lowers all three of the stats I just mentioned on Joker's target

Dekunda


This skill nullifies any stat decreases that Joker can be inflicted with, including the use of Debilitate.

Tetrakarn


This skill erects a shield that blocks and reflects a physical or gun attacks aimed at Joker for one attack and then the shield dispels.

Makarakarn


This skill does the same thing as Tetrakarn but with magic spells rather than physical or gun skills. Although it cannot protect Joker from the use of Almighty spells.

Charge


This skill applies a 2.5x multiplier to the damage of Joker's next physical or gun attack

Concentrate


This skill applies a 2.5x multiplier to the damage of Joker's next magical attack

Sora

Magic/Status Ailments



With his Keyblade Sora has the ability to use magic spells which can cause status ailments. Again for the sake of wanting to go outside I'm only going to go over his recurring spells and some exceptions I think are relevant enough to talk about.

Firaga


Sora fires a massive fireball at his opponent, it also has a chance to inflict the burn status effect which does damage over time until it goes away.

Thundaga


Sora summons lightning bolts to strike his enemies. It also has a chance of inflicting the electrify status effect which causes the enemy to move significantly slower, and if they make contact with their ally the electricity discharges and takes 20% of the HP of everyone hit and ends the status effect.

Blizzaga


Sora shoots a chunk of giant ice at his target, it has a chance to inflict the freeze status effect which immobilizes the victim by capturing them in ice and the status effect ends once they are hit.

Curaga


This spells restores Sora's HP back to full, but as a trade-off it also takes all of Sora's MP to use making enter the MP recharge state, but he can get his MP back to normal by attacking his opponents.

Glide


This spell allows Sora to fly and glide above the ground which is useful for dodging attacks or running away at high speeds.

Aeroga


This spell lets Sora summon a gust of wind to attack his enemies, and he can even jump into the wind to gain even more air in his jump.

Gravity


This spell unleashes a mini event-horizon which crushes the opponent and depletes their HP.

Zero Gravity


This spell is creates a field of zero-gravity which sends Sora's opponents mid-air where they lose HP over time and if they're hit in this state there's a chance the confuse status effect could be inflicted. This status effect makes Sora's opponent either attack their allies or help him.

Stopga


This spell lets Sora freeze his enemies in time for a short period

Magnet


This spell creates a magnetic field which draws in Sora's enemies and does continues damage.

Water


This spell surrounds Sora in a barrier of water before he shoots a blast of it that homes in on his enemy.

Reflect


This spell surrounds Sora in a barrier of light that blocks and reflects any incoming damage back on the attacker.

Sleep


This spell puts all surrounding enemies to sleep which immobilizes the victim for a period of time or until they are hit similar to freeze.

Esuna


This spell allows Sora to recover from any status ailments inflicted on him.

The Power of Waking


This power allows Sora to wake sleeping hearts like he did with Ventus, and he can also use it to build his body back after being torn in conceptual pieces and restore destroyed hearts. He can even use this power to send himself and his allies back in time meaning Sora can use it to Time Travel. This is important because in order to normally Time Travel in Kingdom Hearts one would have to dispose of their body and send only their heart into either the past or future but Sora wouldn't have to do that thanks to the power of waking.

Forms

Joker

Ren Amamiya


When he's not parkarouing around Palaces and Jails and mowing down Shadows, Ren is a normal schoolboy who just likes to spend time with his friends and do activities like going to the batting cages, playing darts and playing billiards. 

Sora

Drive Forms

Valor Form


The first Drive Form Sora gets. It focuses on offense and allows him to dual-wield Keyblades but as a drawback he cannot use spells in this form.

Wisdom Form

This form allows Sora to glide across the floor with enchanced speed and enhances his magical abilities. He also shoots magic bullets rather than melee attacks, although he can only use one Keyblade in this form.

Antiform

Unlike his other Drive Forms, he cannot enter this Form of his own volition as it activates randomly. This form is probably the worst one Sora is able to use, this is because this form takes away his Keyblade, his ability to guard and he cannot revert from this form on his own. It also does the least amount of damage to his opponents, Although the one upside this form has is the speed, as while he does little damage, he can rack it up because of the speed the form gives him.

Limit Form


This form changes Sora's appearance to be reminiscent of his Kingdom Hearts I outfit. Because of this it allows him to use his abilities from Kingom Hearts I and Chain of Memories.

Master Form



This form is a fusion of both Valor and Wisdom Forms. It allows Sora to use two Keyblades again and he can control one of them telepathically. This form specializes in both Physical and Magic combat.

Final Form


This is the strongest form Sora can attain in Kingdom Hearts II. It allows him to float above the ground and also allows him to dual wield Keyblades both of which are controlled telepathically. I know some people reading this are probably wondering why I even brought this forms up if Sora can no longer enter them. The reason for this is because most of his new forms triggered by his Keyblade formchanges are seemingly evolutions to his Drive Forms. I will explain which ones can be seen as evolutions of specific drive Forms.

Formchanges

Rage Form


This form is basically a better Antiform. This is because Sora can choose to willingly enter this form when his health is low and maintains access to his Keyblade. He can also revert from this form when he chooses. Another thing he can do in this form is halve his current HP in order to increase his attack power. This form has no required Keyblade trigger and only requires Sora to have low health.

Second Form


This form is an evolution of sorts to Limit Form. It changes Sora's clothes color scheme to his Kingdom Hearts II outfit, and allows him to access abilities from that game. This form is triggered by Sora's Kingdom Key and Starlight Keyblades.

Strike Form


This form is an evolution of sorts of Valor Form. This is because this form focuses on Sora's offensive capabilities with Sora wearing red clothing. This form is triggered by Sora's Favorite Deputy, Happy Gear, and Wheel of Fate Keyblades. The formchanges Sora uses in this form are Hyper Hammer and Drill Punch from Favorite Deputy. Agile Claws and Twin Yo-Yo's from Happy Gear. And Highwind and Storm Flag from Wheel of Fate.

Element Form


This form is an evolution of sorts to Wisdom Form. Like Wisdom Form, Sora wears blue clothing and the form focuses on Sora's magical and long-range attacks. This form is triggered by Sora's Shooting Star and Ever After Keyblades. The formchanges Sora uses in this form are Double Arrowguns and Magic Launcher from Shooting Star and Mirage Staff from Ever After.

Guardian Form


This form can be seen as an evolution to Master form, but really the only thing they have in common is Sora wearing yellow clothing. This form specializes in defense. It is triggered by Sora's Hero's Origin, Hunny Spout and Classic Tone Keyblades. The formchanges that are used in this form are Counter Shield from Hero's Origin, Hunny Blasters and Hunny Launcher from Hunny Spout, which are basically Shooting Star's Double Arrowguns and Magic Launcher. And Boom Hammer and Clock Drill from Classic Tone which are it's versions of Hyper Hammer and Drill Punch.

Blitz Form



This is one of the four unique forms that can't really be argued as evolutions of Drive Forms as they are wholly unique. This form emphasizes Sora's speed and mobility. It is triggered by Sora's Crystal Snow, Nano Gear and Grand Chef Keyblades. The formchanges used in this from are Blizzard Claws, and Blizzard Blades from Crystal Snow, Nano Arms from Nano Gear, and Frying Pan from Grand Chef.

Light Form



This is the second form that is wholly unique. This form allows Sora to harness the light within him and is triggered by his Oathkeeper Keyblade.

Dark Form


The third form that is wholly unique. It allows Sora to harness the darkness inside of him and is triggered by his Oblivion Keyblade.

Double Form


The final form that is wholly unique. It allows Sora to harness both the darkness and light inside of him and allows him to dual-wield the Oathkeeper and Oblivion Keyblades like Roxas. This form is triggered by filling a meter in either Light or Dark Form.

Ultimate Form


This form can be seen as an evolution of Final Form. Like Final Form, Sora wears white clothing in Ultimate Form, and this form is the strongest form Sora can use. This form allows Sora to float above the ground, summon a bunch of swords which can attack and defend him, and allows him to teleport to his enemies to extend combos. 


Feats

Joker

Overall


  • Is the leader of the word-renowned Phantom Thieves of Hearts
  • Defeated multiple Palace Rulers, like Kamoshida, Okumura and Shido 
  • Defeated or assisted in the defeat of multiple malevolent gods like Enlil, Yaldabaoth, Salamael, The Demiurge and Maruki who was just misguided
  • Defeated his Velvet Room Attendants as the Twin Wardens Caroline and Justine and their true form as Lavenza
  • Fought alongside S.E.E.S and The Investigation team and even helped Yu Narukami, Makoto Yuki and Kotone Shiomi defeat their Velvet Room attendants, Elizabeth, Theodore and Margaret.
  • Stopped reality from being permanently fused with the Metaverse on three separate occasions.
  • Took over the game awards to announce himself for Smash Bros

 Power


Speed


Durability


Sora

Overall


  • Is potentially the strongest of the seven guardians of light
  • Defeated 1,000 Heartless at once, all on his own
  • Technically defeated Xehanort 13 times (9 members of the Real Orginization XIII had Xehanort's essence in them and 4 of them were technically just Xehanort)
  • Freed Terra, Aqua and Ventus from their decade long suffering
  • Freed Roxas from the confines of his own heart
  • Managed to give almost all of his friends a happy ending at the end of Kingdom Hearts III
  • Finally shared a paoupu fruit with Kairi
  • Is finally in Smash Bros after being the most requested fighter

Power



Speed



Durability


Scaling

Joker

Wild Card Users



Joker should scale to the other Wild Card users as they all share the same power and pool of Personas except for their starting an ultimate ones. And Joker has even fought alongside them in Persona Q2. He should also upscale to his own and their teammates

Sora

Seven Guardians of Light


As the seven guardians of light are all Keyblade wielders and Sora is one of the best at wielding his Keyblade meaning he should scale relative to them or upscale from them.

Weaknesses

Joker


Despite all of his strengths Joker does have his weaknesses. For example if he doesn't heal himself, as durable as he is, a strong enough attack will put him down for good. Another one is that if he runs out of SP he will not be able to use any magic spells unless Joker's Mindfulness confidant ability kicks in. Also if any of his Personas take enough damage they will undergo a Persona Break, disabling them from being summoned for a brief period of time and doing damage mentally. And even with the ungodly amount of Personas he has at his disposal he can only use one of them at a time.

Sora


As much strength as Sora has, he does have his weaknesses. For example he can be put down with enough power if he doesn't heal himself, even with his insane conceptual durability. Another weakness he has is that he isn't the smartest and fails to understand simple concepts sometimes, but he isn't stupid. And if he runs out of MP he is forced to undergo the MP recharge state forcing him to only use physical combos with his Keyblade. And finally if he is inflicted with the Command Seal or Lock status effect he cannot use his magic spells

My Verdict

Stats

In terms of stats these two are basically dead even with having Universal to Multiversal feats and scaling, having insane feats of durability like coming back from being erased from existence and being torn into conceptual pieces and having similar speeds, with Joker being faster through his own speed feats but both being infinite speed through scaling. So in terms of stats it's hard to say who wins cuz like I said it's dead even.

Arsenal & Abilities

When it comes to Arsenal, Sora has that in the bag thanks to just how many Keyblades he can use and can switch out at will, each with their own stats and Shotlocks. But when it comes to abilites Joker has that in the bag thanks to just how many Personas he can use and switch out at will each with their own stats and abilities. So this technically also results in a deadlock as Sora gets 1 point for his expansive arsenal and Joker gets 1 point for his numerous abilities.

Tertiary Factors/Experience

Now when it comes to Experience Sora should have this in the bag. While they've both been battling Heartless/Nobodies and Shadows for at minimum a year Sora has more experience with his fighting style thanks to his many years of dueling with Riku and the Final Fantasy characters back on Destiny Islands.

Conclusion

Joker


Advantages/Disadvantages:
  • + Has significantly more variety when it comes to abilities
  • + Slightly to massively faster in finite ends but
  • = Similar in speed when scaling as both have infinite speed
  • + Although he can stay faster due to buffs and debuffs
  • = Similar strength and durability
  • = Can inflict each other with status ailments
  • = Similar improvisation skills when using environment to his advantage
  • = Can use magic spells to cleanse ailments 
  • + Forget skill would be able to make Sora undergo a Command Lock and therefore would not be able to use his Esuna spell
  • - Significantly less battle experience
  • - Has significantly less of an arsenal to match up to Sora's
  • - Can be hit and knocked down/stunned depending on equipped Persona's weakness
  • + Satanael cannot take damage even from Almighty damage/Sora's neutral element
  • - Power of waking can time travel back to before Satanael is summoned
  • + Power of Waking could also cause Sora to fade away before being able to use it properly
  • - Any Persona other Satanael can undergo a Persona Break and therefore would not be able to be summoned for a brief period of time

Sora

"Kingdom Hearts is Light"
Advantages/Disadvantages:
  • - Slighty to signifcantly slower in finite ends but
  • = Similar speed when scaling as both have infinite speed
  • - Although Joker can ensure he's faster by buffing himself or debuffing Sora
  • = Similar strength and durability
  • = Can inflict each other with status ailments
  • = Can cleanse each others status ailments with magic spells but
  • - Joker's Forget ailment would stop Sora from being able to use magic
  • - Less variety in abilities but
  • + More variety in his massive arsenal
  • + Significantly more battle experience
  • + Can knock down/stun Joker if he hits his weakness depending on his equipped Persona
  • + Can make most of Joker's Personas undergo a Persona Break
  • - Cannot damage Joker if Satanael is being summoned even with Ultimate Form or the X-blade
  • + Can use the power of waking to time travel before Satanael is summoned
  • - Power of waking could cause Sora to fade away and "die."
Both of these heroes of heart are certainly capable of being able to put each other down as they each hold distinct advantages over the other. So in my humble opinion I thought that this fight would basically be Satanael vs The Power of Waking because in all honesty they should cancel out as Joker is immune to damage with Satanael but Sora can use the Power of waking in order to travel to before he was summoned but abuse of this power would cause Sora to fade away. So now I believe it would basically come down to status ailments which they both can inflict each other with and can cleanse themselves from. With one exception, Joker's Forget ailment as it causes his opponent to not remember how to use their equivalent of skills which would be similar to Sora being inflicted by the Command Seal/Lock ailment which prevents him from using magic, meaning he would not be able to use his Esuna spell in order to heal himself from it and Joker should be able to take advantage of that as he is either faster or similar in speed and can make himself faster anyway thanks to buffs and debuffs. So in my OPINION and you are free to disagree, I believe that no card Sora could play would stand up to the JOKER. The winner is Joker.










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